This week, we’re talking about all the things we are looking forward to in 2025! We’d love to hear about your plans and intentions for the new year. Tell us about them in the comments!
Evan mentions:
Onyx Storm by Rebecca Yarros
Nightshade God by Hannah Whitten
Immortal Dark book 2 by Tigest Girma
Christina mentions:
K.Flay
St. Motel
Ryn Weaver
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[00:00:56] Hi, Christina.
[00:00:57] Hi, Evan.
[00:00:59] Can you believe another year already?
[00:01:03] No.
[00:01:03] Like we just started this one.
[00:01:04] And now it's 2025.
[00:01:09] I mean, on the one hand, I'm like January 2024 was a million years ago.
[00:01:15] Yeah.
[00:01:16] But how could it be 2025?
[00:01:18] Yeah.
[00:01:19] The year was fast and also short.
[00:01:23] Yeah.
[00:01:24] Truly boggles the mind.
[00:01:26] Yeah.
[00:01:27] Yeah.
[00:01:27] But that is what the calendar says.
[00:01:29] Yeah.
[00:01:30] Yeah.
[00:01:30] Yeah.
[00:01:30] And I guess every year is some weird, like it never feels like the right amount of time
[00:01:35] has passed.
[00:01:35] It's been long.
[00:01:36] It's been short.
[00:01:37] Yeah.
[00:01:38] Yeah.
[00:01:39] It's been long.
[00:01:40] It is.
[00:01:40] There you go.
[00:01:41] It is invented.
[00:01:42] It's a social construct.
[00:01:43] And so we're just going to go with it for our purposes.
[00:01:47] And this is our annual queer ahead.
[00:01:50] Yeah.
[00:01:50] Yeah.
[00:01:50] Episode where we talk about what we're excited about in the queer year to come.
[00:01:55] This is an attempt to not do like toxic new year resolution bullshit, which is funny because
[00:02:04] every year I have the last couple of years I've set the same resolution and I have not made
[00:02:08] it.
[00:02:08] So we're not doing that this year.
[00:02:10] I'm not.
[00:02:13] But yeah, we'll talk about some things that we are excited about and then some intentions
[00:02:17] we have for the year.
[00:02:19] Yeah.
[00:02:20] Oh, I would like to give an update that I did finish my eighth nonfiction book.
[00:02:27] Yeah.
[00:02:27] Look at you hitting the stretch goal.
[00:02:29] Yeah.
[00:02:29] It's not even it's not the one I had started at the time that we recorded the queer in
[00:02:36] review where I was like, I'll just finish this book and that will get me there.
[00:02:39] I read an entirely different book.
[00:02:40] Wow.
[00:02:42] So you can still finish that one and then you could really, you know, it's true.
[00:02:46] In theory.
[00:02:46] Crush the stretch goal.
[00:02:47] In theory.
[00:02:48] Very good.
[00:02:48] Mm hmm.
[00:02:49] Love that.
[00:02:50] I think I'm going to finish one more novel before the year is over.
[00:02:53] Look at you.
[00:02:54] Which will be, I think, three novels this year.
[00:02:57] Not that many.
[00:02:58] More than usual for me.
[00:02:59] But yeah, we're living in the future now.
[00:03:02] 2025.
[00:03:03] Yeah.
[00:03:04] Ugh.
[00:03:04] What a time.
[00:03:05] But Evan, is there anything that you're excited about for the year?
[00:03:10] Anything you're looking forward to?
[00:03:11] Yes.
[00:03:12] I'm excited about books, which is every time we do one of these, I'm like, what are the
[00:03:15] books coming out?
[00:03:16] Books are good.
[00:03:17] Yes.
[00:03:18] I, uh, my list is just all books.
[00:03:21] Like I'm looking at your list and you have like some other things and I'm just like, here's
[00:03:26] the books I'm looking forward to.
[00:03:27] But I will tell you, Onyx Storm by Rebecca Yaros comes out in January and that's the third
[00:03:34] book in the, um, fourth wing.
[00:03:37] The, um, Smutty Dragonrider books.
[00:03:41] Which I've maybe mentioned on the show before as I was really into dragons as a kid.
[00:03:49] And...
[00:03:50] I think we talked about that with Maggie.
[00:03:51] Yes.
[00:03:51] Yeah.
[00:03:52] So as someone who was really into dragons as a kid and now reads romance novels as an
[00:03:56] adult, I'm like, this book was written for me.
[00:04:00] Yeah.
[00:04:00] So that comes out in January.
[00:04:04] And then in April, Gifted and Talented by Olive E. Blake comes out.
[00:04:09] And that one's not part of a series or at least it's not a continuation of a series.
[00:04:13] I think it's a standalone.
[00:04:14] But the premise is like Succession but with Magic.
[00:04:21] Ooh.
[00:04:22] Yeah.
[00:04:22] And I, to give myself away, I don't watch Succession because I watched one episode and
[00:04:27] I was like, I am too uncomfortable with how gross I feel about watching these rich people
[00:04:34] be terrible.
[00:04:35] Mm-hmm.
[00:04:35] But for Magic, I'm in.
[00:04:37] Yeah.
[00:04:38] That's fair.
[00:04:38] Yeah.
[00:04:39] Yeah.
[00:04:39] So these three people, their father dies and they're gonna like feud over his empire but
[00:04:51] with magic.
[00:04:53] Yeah.
[00:04:53] Ooh.
[00:04:53] And I mean, Gifted and Talented, great name for the...
[00:04:57] Yeah.
[00:04:57] Ooh.
[00:04:57] Yeah.
[00:04:58] So that's in April.
[00:04:58] I basically have a book every quarter.
[00:05:02] Nice.
[00:05:03] Which is nice.
[00:05:03] Something to look forward to.
[00:05:05] Yeah.
[00:05:05] Nightshade God by Hannah Witten comes out in July.
[00:05:07] And then this is technically still in Q3.
[00:05:10] The second book, the second Immortal Dark book comes out in September.
[00:05:14] There's not even a title yet.
[00:05:15] Wow.
[00:05:15] That's how fresh it is.
[00:05:17] And I just read the first book in October.
[00:05:21] Yeah.
[00:05:22] And I liked reading it so much that when the audiobook became available at the library,
[00:05:28] I just immediately started listening to it.
[00:05:30] So I've read that book twice in the 2024 calendar year.
[00:05:36] Wow.
[00:05:36] I'm excited for the second one.
[00:05:39] So I've got two books in Q3 and then one in Q1 and Q2 that I'm looking forward to.
[00:05:46] And hopefully something will pop up for Q4.
[00:05:49] There's also a number of series that I was like, do they have another book coming out?
[00:05:53] And there's nothing scheduled.
[00:05:54] But I'm hoping at the very least I'll get some updates.
[00:05:59] Particularly Leora Dugo's Ninth House series.
[00:06:02] I'm like, where's book three?
[00:06:04] When do I get it?
[00:06:05] Where is the show?
[00:06:06] Are they turning into a show?
[00:06:07] It's been in development.
[00:06:08] And I think the last news was like last year at some point.
[00:06:13] She said she was like working on the script or had just like read a version of the script or something.
[00:06:19] And then I Googled for news earlier and did not find anything new.
[00:06:25] So I don't know.
[00:06:27] Yeah.
[00:06:27] When things are in development, like film and TV takes forever.
[00:06:31] I looked to see because one of my favorite novel of the year, Whoever You Are, Honey by Olivia Gatwood.
[00:06:38] The author is working on the script and Lucky Chop picked it up.
[00:06:42] But there's like no information about when that would come out because she's still writing the script.
[00:06:49] But I did look.
[00:06:50] I was like, is there any way that we have?
[00:06:51] We don't have any information about that at this time.
[00:06:55] And then theoretically at some point in 2025, I will be putting out a chat book.
[00:07:01] Yeah, you will.
[00:07:03] A chat book or a full length book?
[00:07:05] I mean, current work in progress in my head is full length.
[00:07:09] Oh, yeah.
[00:07:10] Yeah.
[00:07:11] I mean, it's I mean, it's like a whole world.
[00:07:14] I mean, it's your book.
[00:07:15] So you can do whatever you want to do with it.
[00:07:17] But I just feel like there's like enough ground for it to be a full collection.
[00:07:22] Yeah, I guess because it's I want to say it's like 48 pages right now.
[00:07:27] So it's like you're basically there, you know.
[00:07:30] I'm a little shy.
[00:07:31] But yeah, I suppose I could.
[00:07:34] Yeah.
[00:07:35] Do a little more with it.
[00:07:37] I guess it's good to know that you think this.
[00:07:39] I had not been thinking this whole time.
[00:07:40] I'd been like, it's a chat book.
[00:07:42] I never once thought it was a chat book.
[00:07:45] Interesting.
[00:07:46] Okay.
[00:07:46] Okay.
[00:07:46] I guess I should be asking these questions.
[00:07:48] You should.
[00:07:49] Yeah.
[00:07:49] You should be asking what I think of what you're going to do.
[00:07:53] But yeah, it would.
[00:07:53] I mean, obviously, you could do it.
[00:07:55] You could do a chat book if you want.
[00:07:56] But I think it's worth expanding.
[00:07:59] Okay.
[00:08:00] Well, let's get to know.
[00:08:01] You have a whole year.
[00:08:02] So, you know.
[00:08:07] All right.
[00:08:07] Well, then perhaps it's not as close to done as I thought.
[00:08:10] I got to write some more poems.
[00:08:12] Congratulations.
[00:08:12] More homework.
[00:08:14] Love that.
[00:08:18] All right.
[00:08:18] Well, I told you about all the books I am looking forward to.
[00:08:23] What are you excited about in 2025?
[00:08:27] Many things.
[00:08:27] I thought about looking.
[00:08:29] I was like, Evan's going to talk about things that are coming out.
[00:08:31] But then I was like, do I like anything that's coming out?
[00:08:34] Probably.
[00:08:35] Don't know where to find it.
[00:08:36] Won't look.
[00:08:37] But in my personal life, I have some travel plans coming up that I'm excited about.
[00:08:42] I think the listeners might kind of know.
[00:08:44] I was supposed to go to Kenya like twice in 2024.
[00:08:47] And both times we had to.
[00:08:48] It's the whole thing.
[00:08:49] We had to cancel and postpone.
[00:08:51] So hopefully, as you're listening to this, I am at Danny Beach with the clear water.
[00:08:58] And if that doesn't happen, I give up.
[00:09:00] I'm not going.
[00:09:02] But that's not true.
[00:09:05] Just complain about it more.
[00:09:06] Yeah.
[00:09:08] I don't know.
[00:09:09] After three times, I think I will take the hint and just go to Italy instead or something.
[00:09:13] Yeah.
[00:09:14] But yeah, you're just never again going to go to the place where your partner is from.
[00:09:18] You know what?
[00:09:18] The universe three times said no.
[00:09:21] Sometimes you have to listen.
[00:09:22] I'm just kidding.
[00:09:24] It's looking good.
[00:09:26] But yeah, that's in January.
[00:09:27] I'm excited for that.
[00:09:29] I've only been to Kenya once.
[00:09:31] And it'll be a good trip.
[00:09:33] I'm also planning to go to Western Europe to visit my brother in the summertime, early summer.
[00:09:39] And I'm also planning to go to Alaska with a friend of the show, Donovan, to see the Northern Lights, hopefully.
[00:09:48] I'm excited about that.
[00:09:49] You know me.
[00:09:50] Don't want to leave the house day to day.
[00:09:52] Love to leave the house for long periods of time.
[00:09:56] A book that I am excited about that is coming out is my book.
[00:10:02] I made my whole list and then I was like, I should move this.
[00:10:05] It was the last thing I thought of.
[00:10:07] I was like, I should move this up.
[00:10:08] Planning to have my second poetry collection come out in February.
[00:10:14] We'll see.
[00:10:15] But that is the current plan.
[00:10:17] And I am excited, I guess, to do that.
[00:10:22] I'm like getting into the point now where I'm like, oh, people are going to read this.
[00:10:27] Which is true of books.
[00:10:28] I had the same crisis with my last book.
[00:10:30] Yeah, that is how they work.
[00:10:31] When I realized that it wouldn't just be you and our writing group reading it.
[00:10:37] That in fact, others will be allowed to as well.
[00:10:40] In fact, the idea is that they will.
[00:10:43] Yeah.
[00:10:43] Like I'll encourage people to read it and then I won't.
[00:10:46] I'll feel uncomfortable about that.
[00:10:48] Yeah.
[00:10:48] You will ask them for money for the potentiality to read it.
[00:10:53] Yeah.
[00:10:56] But yeah, that'll be fun.
[00:10:58] Good time.
[00:10:59] I think it'll be good.
[00:11:00] It's a book of breakup poems, which is my specialty.
[00:11:03] So I think it is what people want.
[00:11:06] I love concerts.
[00:11:08] Going to concerts next year.
[00:11:11] I only have a couple.
[00:11:11] I thought I had more, but a lot of people are touring and I've been like, I don't know
[00:11:14] what I'm going to feel like in March.
[00:11:16] Let me just wait.
[00:11:18] K-Flay tickets, which will be wonderful.
[00:11:20] Obviously, every time we see K-Flay is a good time.
[00:11:23] Yeah.
[00:11:24] I also have St.
[00:11:24] Motel tickets.
[00:11:26] St.
[00:11:26] Motel is excellent in concert.
[00:11:28] There will probably be more.
[00:11:31] And allegedly, I think I maybe said this last year because like allegedly, Ren Weaver
[00:11:35] was going to put out new music last year and then she didn't.
[00:11:41] So I'm like, maybe this year.
[00:11:43] She told us she has music.
[00:11:45] She's working on the record.
[00:11:47] And I don't have it.
[00:11:49] So I'm keeping it in my personal zeitgeist by bringing it up again.
[00:11:53] Yeah.
[00:11:54] I hope we get a new Harry record in 2025.
[00:11:57] I feel like I've heard rumors about that.
[00:12:00] Yeah.
[00:12:01] Yeah.
[00:12:01] Supposedly he's working on it.
[00:12:03] I did not go see Tommy LaFroix this year, even though I wanted to.
[00:12:12] But I was like, let me make a choice that's good for my overall well-being.
[00:12:16] And so I feel like this means.
[00:12:18] He's going to blow up.
[00:12:20] Yeah.
[00:12:20] But they're going to be huge by the end of 2025.
[00:12:24] So you heard it here first.
[00:12:28] Look out for them.
[00:12:31] Yeah.
[00:12:31] We made that mistake, didn't we?
[00:12:35] Sabrina Carpenter, Chaparron.
[00:12:37] Although Chaparron is going in like a country direction.
[00:12:40] So maybe the like the I don't know what to what to call these people.
[00:12:44] But like disparagingly fans who are only in it for this particular moment, maybe they'll
[00:12:49] go away.
[00:12:50] And then the true fans such as us, you know, maybe they also could be true fans, but I'm
[00:12:55] just bitter.
[00:12:56] That's all.
[00:12:57] But yeah, those are the things I'm looking forward to, as I'm sure many other things
[00:13:01] will happen.
[00:13:02] But will they?
[00:13:04] I mean, we'll see.
[00:13:06] I'm not looking forward to, you know, a lot of other things that are going on in the world,
[00:13:10] but I can't control those.
[00:13:11] And that's not what this mini episode is about.
[00:13:13] No, it's not.
[00:13:14] Yeah.
[00:13:15] Do you have any goals or intentions for the year?
[00:13:19] I would like to carve out more protected, nonproductive time.
[00:13:26] And I don't quite know what that will look like.
[00:13:30] Like, I don't know that I'm ever going to be a like no work on the weekends person because
[00:13:37] you'll have to work on the weekends because that's what I could do the podcast.
[00:13:40] Yeah, exactly.
[00:13:41] So like there are just too many things in my life that would make that like impractical.
[00:13:45] Yeah.
[00:13:46] And also I just like working.
[00:13:50] Okay, Virgo.
[00:13:53] But it also has been good the times where I've been like.
[00:13:59] Like there was one day.
[00:14:02] I'm realizing now it was probably in like January because it was rainy and I'm like,
[00:14:06] oh God, that was.
[00:14:08] But there was one day where like I just like spent all day cozy on the couch, like listening
[00:14:13] to an audio book and like hanging out.
[00:14:16] And I was like, wow, it's so nice to just like be.
[00:14:22] And I had we went on a trip to Joshua Tree and that was really nice.
[00:14:27] And that was last weekend at the time of recording.
[00:14:30] Yeah.
[00:14:30] Not 12 months ago.
[00:14:31] No.
[00:14:33] And I like joined my Sunday morning writing group.
[00:14:36] But that felt very like, you know, it's a casual whatever.
[00:14:41] Like, yeah.
[00:14:42] And maybe I did a couple things on my phone.
[00:14:43] But for the most part, I was unplugged and just like hanging out.
[00:14:51] And it was very good and very necessary.
[00:14:55] So in 2025, I would like my to have more examples than just the beginning of the year and the
[00:15:02] end of the year.
[00:15:04] Good idea.
[00:15:05] Yeah.
[00:15:05] Yeah.
[00:15:06] Yeah.
[00:15:07] It's hard because like you don't have a lot of like external structure currently in your
[00:15:12] work life.
[00:15:12] You have to make your own structure, which is very difficult.
[00:15:16] So like there are times I'm sure when you're not like doing things, but then you're probably
[00:15:20] like feeling guilty about not doing things.
[00:15:22] Yes.
[00:15:22] Or like I'm thinking about the thing or like it's just it's a lot of like polluted time.
[00:15:28] Yeah.
[00:15:29] Yeah.
[00:15:29] I feel bad.
[00:15:30] It's part of why I like to leave the house for extended periods of time.
[00:15:33] Can be in a new place.
[00:15:34] Very good.
[00:15:35] What's a goal that you have for 2025?
[00:15:38] Great question.
[00:15:39] So I have been thinking about and like looking into taking some kind of class about like energy
[00:15:48] work and energy healing.
[00:15:50] It's a thing that I have some practice in, but I don't have like a lot of formal training.
[00:15:56] I don't at this point necessarily feel like I want to like become a formal practitioner,
[00:16:04] but it's something I have a lot of curiosity about.
[00:16:07] And there's a lot of continuing education courses that are like for people who are like in the
[00:16:12] healthcare industry, which I'm not famously that kind of like go over like different forms
[00:16:21] of energy work and like planes in the body.
[00:16:24] And I've been thinking about taking a class, but I'm like, well, I'm not going to like do
[00:16:28] anything with it.
[00:16:29] So maybe I won't take it.
[00:16:30] But it's like it's OK.
[00:16:31] It's just a thing that I'm curious about.
[00:16:33] Yeah.
[00:16:33] And I want to learn it.
[00:16:34] I like being in like a structured educational setting.
[00:16:40] So I intend to do that this year.
[00:16:43] Cool.
[00:16:43] What about you?
[00:16:44] Any other intentions?
[00:16:46] Sell some art.
[00:16:47] Yeah.
[00:16:48] Yeah.
[00:16:49] As a regular listeners of the show, no, in some capacity.
[00:16:54] I don't know how in detail I've talked about it, but I left my day job of eight years in
[00:17:00] March.
[00:17:01] Yeah, I did.
[00:17:02] And have been bouncing around since then.
[00:17:08] I have made some money, but a lot of this year I have lived off of savings that I like
[00:17:17] intentionally was like, I'm going to leave my job.
[00:17:19] So here's the money.
[00:17:20] So I don't have to like figure everything out immediately.
[00:17:23] And so in some ways I like framed this year as a sabbatical.
[00:17:27] Like a lot.
[00:17:28] There were a lot of people when they asked like, oh, like, what do you do?
[00:17:30] I'd be like, I'm on sabbatical because I was like, it's too complicated for me to be
[00:17:33] like, I do a bunch of projects that sort of just pay me a little money, not enough
[00:17:39] money, but a little money.
[00:17:43] And now I've been doing some freelance work and making more money, enough money to pay
[00:17:51] my rent, which is good.
[00:17:52] We like that.
[00:17:53] We love that.
[00:17:53] But yeah, I'm going to in 2025, I see transitioning from being like, I'm on sabbatical to being
[00:18:00] like, I am a working artist.
[00:18:03] Yeah.
[00:18:04] And here's all the different work that I do.
[00:18:08] And yeah, so that's the goal.
[00:18:12] I love that.
[00:18:13] Yeah.
[00:18:13] Very good.
[00:18:14] And when you have art to sell, we can tell the listeners and then they can buy it and
[00:18:17] then you can meet your goal.
[00:18:21] Yes, that's the hope.
[00:18:23] Yeah.
[00:18:23] Yeah.
[00:18:24] And what about you?
[00:18:24] I have been so like one of my other intentions is to teach a few poetry workshops, which is
[00:18:31] a thing that I have done before.
[00:18:32] And for the last like probably couple of years, maybe time is weird, but for like a long time,
[00:18:39] I've like been thinking about like concepts for like what a workshop would look like and
[00:18:46] like what kind of things I want to do, how I would want to run it and like different containers.
[00:18:51] But I've just been like, well, I'm doing too many things, so I'm not going to do this
[00:18:55] right now.
[00:18:56] Yeah.
[00:18:57] Which might still be true in 2025, but I would like to get back into that because again,
[00:19:03] I love a structured educational setting.
[00:19:05] And I also think that like poetry workshops are really essential for like community building.
[00:19:11] I've really been enjoying our writing group that run.
[00:19:14] It's not a workshop format necessarily, but it's like a peer writing group.
[00:19:18] And so I intend to try to do a couple of those and see how that fits into my life.
[00:19:24] That's cool.
[00:19:25] And I will tell the listeners about it so they can come do it if they want.
[00:19:29] It's great.
[00:19:30] Yeah.
[00:19:31] And I'm excited to keep making this show.
[00:19:34] Yeah.
[00:19:35] Yeah.
[00:19:35] We got a whole another year of things to do and we'll make an announcement when things
[00:19:42] roll out, but we'll be making Patreon updates based on feedback that we got in our, um, our
[00:19:51] Patreon member survey.
[00:19:52] So yeah, we want to give the people what they want.
[00:19:55] Yeah.
[00:19:56] Yeah.
[00:19:56] We, we will carve out all the goodness.
[00:20:00] Yes.
[00:20:01] That sounded, when I said, after I said it, I was like, that sounds weird.
[00:20:06] Um, you know what I meant, but yeah.
[00:20:08] Um, but yeah, it should be a really good year for the show.
[00:20:12] Who knows about the rest of the world?
[00:20:14] Um, but we will continue to show up and do the work.
[00:20:18] We'll make space to be together.
[00:20:21] Yeah.
[00:20:22] Um, and we have some, uh, planned episodes, um, around, um, like restorative culture, um,
[00:20:28] and some other things that will certainly help me process the bullshit we're about to be going
[00:20:35] through, um, and that we are currently going through and hopefully also will be supportive
[00:20:40] tools and resources for our listeners.
[00:20:42] Yeah.
[00:20:42] Yeah.
[00:20:42] If you have any, um, queer ahead, uh, intentions, goals, things you're excited about, we would
[00:20:50] love to hear about them and you know where to find us.
[00:20:52] Yeah.
[00:20:52] Wow.
[00:20:53] Goodbye.
[00:20:55] Bye.
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