2024 Queer in Review

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[00:00:53] Hi, Christina. Hi, Evan. Can you believe that 2024 is coming to an end?

[00:00:59] No.

[00:01:00] Evan's just like shaking their head.

[00:01:03] Yeah, this year has been 72 years long, I feel.

[00:01:07] I...

[00:01:13] Yep.

[00:01:14] Time.

[00:01:14] Yeah.

[00:01:15] It's also not...

[00:01:16] Like it's been 30 seconds long and also 72 years, but certainly not one year. That can't be right.

[00:01:23] We've made it.

[00:01:24] And so now we get to do our sacred annual tradition of our queer in review, where we look back at the

[00:01:32] goals and resolutions we set for ourselves and think about how we have achieved and or not achieved them.

[00:01:42] A time-honored tradition indeed.

[00:01:44] Yeah.

[00:01:45] Yeah.

[00:01:45] So, Evan, is it okay if I start with you?

[00:01:48] Yeah.

[00:01:49] Yeah.

[00:01:49] Okay, so you had two personal goals this year.

[00:01:52] Very good.

[00:01:53] One goal was to make 10 new friends in 2024.

[00:01:58] How did that go for you?

[00:02:00] This went pretty well.

[00:02:02] I did try and count earlier and then I was like, I'm not sure where to draw the line at like,

[00:02:09] this person is an acquaintance versus this person is a friend.

[00:02:12] But I have met many new people this year and deepened or like kind of re-initiated some existing

[00:02:21] relationships and have some people that I feel like, I'm just going to say feel good about.

[00:02:29] And then I was like, does that make sense?

[00:02:31] Because everyone else you feel bad about.

[00:02:34] People that I'm like, okay, we're friends.

[00:02:36] And as we get to know each other longer, then we can become like good, better friends.

[00:02:41] Yeah.

[00:02:43] This didn't look how I thought it would.

[00:02:45] Like, I thought it was going to be really efforty and that I was going to like do a bunch of different things.

[00:02:53] But what I ended up doing was just becoming a regular at a twice a month open mic.

[00:03:01] And so that's just where I met all the people.

[00:03:04] Yeah.

[00:03:05] And I mean, that was a lot easier than the things that I was like, I got to do this thing or I got to try these things and I'm going to do a bunch of stuff.

[00:03:13] That's true.

[00:03:13] The beginning of this project, you were kind of like thinking about it like individual friends.

[00:03:18] And then you switched approaches.

[00:03:21] Yes.

[00:03:21] We can always pivot.

[00:03:22] Yeah.

[00:03:23] And I mean, it worked well because I got to like know people over time.

[00:03:31] And I mean, I figured that it wasn't going to be like, I'm going to go to a thing one time and connect with someone.

[00:03:36] So there was an element of like having to do things on a recurring basis.

[00:03:40] But this became relatively easy because one of my friends invited me to go to an open mic and I liked it.

[00:03:48] So I just kept going back and then getting to know the people there.

[00:03:52] And that friend is also someone that I was like close with at one point.

[00:03:56] And then for a couple of years, we like didn't really see each other a whole lot.

[00:04:00] And now I see her like three or four times a week or sometimes like every day.

[00:04:07] Yeah.

[00:04:07] I would say, although I don't know if I have specifically hit that number of like 10,

[00:04:13] the reason I picked a big number and I think I'm sure I explained this in the episode was like I wanted something where it was going to feel like I had to really like make an effort.

[00:04:24] As opposed to just being like, I'm going to meet a person.

[00:04:28] Yeah.

[00:04:29] In 12 months.

[00:04:30] Yeah.

[00:04:31] Something where I like had to make an effort and where I would have a little bit more.

[00:04:36] Variety.

[00:04:38] Variety and also trying to like take the steps to cultivate more of a social network again because I had gotten to the place where you were my main social contact.

[00:04:49] I mean, also me.

[00:04:51] Yes.

[00:04:51] You're still, you know, my main person.

[00:04:56] But I do see other people.

[00:04:58] And in fact, I see them more than I see you.

[00:05:01] I'm just wondering that you also see other people.

[00:05:04] I can't believe that.

[00:05:06] Yeah.

[00:05:08] Yeah.

[00:05:08] Yeah.

[00:05:08] I go to the open mic occasionally, like twice, but they do it late at night on a weeknight.

[00:05:15] And I'm famously tired.

[00:05:18] So.

[00:05:19] Yeah.

[00:05:21] I love that for you.

[00:05:23] Yeah.

[00:05:23] Very good.

[00:05:24] I feel good about this.

[00:05:26] Yeah.

[00:05:26] You were going to watch four foundational queer films and you were going to ask people for their recommendations.

[00:05:35] How'd that go?

[00:05:37] I don't even know that I watched four movies this year.

[00:05:41] I took my stepson to watch the Wolverine movie or something.

[00:05:46] Deadpool and Wolverine.

[00:05:47] Yeah.

[00:05:48] Which I mean, like Madonna was on the soundtrack.

[00:05:51] However, I would never categorize that as a foundational queer film.

[00:05:54] I did watch Bottoms, which is new, but feels foundational.

[00:05:59] And quite frankly, I can't think of another movie that I watched.

[00:06:02] We watched Challengers.

[00:06:03] We watched Challengers and we did an episode about it.

[00:06:05] That's right.

[00:06:05] Right.

[00:06:06] So you've seen at least three movies this year, but that might be it.

[00:06:11] I really think it is.

[00:06:13] I was like, I also watched Me Three again, but I think that was not this year.

[00:06:19] We were flying somewhere together and you were like, are you watching Megan?

[00:06:23] Yes.

[00:06:24] Yeah.

[00:06:24] That was when we went to Portland, which was last year.

[00:06:27] Yeah.

[00:06:27] Great.

[00:06:28] I don't know if that movie stands out.

[00:06:30] Yeah.

[00:06:30] Well, I was like, when do I watch movies when I'm on a long flight?

[00:06:34] I do have a long flight coming up on December 28th, so there's still time.

[00:06:38] Okay.

[00:06:39] I could slide in at the last minute and watch a couple movies on the plane, but it'll be too

[00:06:45] late to tell the people about it.

[00:06:46] So I'll just roll that into next year.

[00:06:49] But yeah, I've had this goal for a couple of years.

[00:06:52] I don't know why this feels important to me.

[00:06:54] It also must not feel that important to me because I set the goal and then immediately

[00:06:58] forget about it.

[00:06:59] Yeah.

[00:06:59] And make no steps towards trying to achieve it.

[00:07:01] We did say this year we were going to like check in on these and then we didn't.

[00:07:06] Yeah.

[00:07:07] Yeah.

[00:07:07] It's your fault, Evan, but I didn't do it.

[00:07:10] You're right.

[00:07:13] How did I become responsible for us not checking in?

[00:07:20] Yeah.

[00:07:21] I think when we talked about it, I was like, I'll pick four because then it's like once

[00:07:24] per quarter.

[00:07:25] I did ask people about queer foundational films on our Instagram and there is a highlight

[00:07:31] of like bi films.

[00:07:33] I just simply didn't watch any of them.

[00:07:37] So I think I'm going to go ahead and let that go and just accept that I, for some reason,

[00:07:42] don't watch movies.

[00:07:44] Maybe in the new year you'll watch one.

[00:07:47] You know what?

[00:07:48] I'm actually just going to leave that entirely off the, I mean, I'll figure out, I guess,

[00:07:52] if I have no other goals, I'll slot that in.

[00:07:54] Yeah.

[00:07:54] It's not resolution setting times.

[00:07:56] You don't need to commit to anything right now.

[00:07:58] But I mean, that would be a 100% increase basically.

[00:08:02] That's true.

[00:08:02] That's not true.

[00:08:03] I watch, you said we watch challengers.

[00:08:05] I don't know if it's quite foundational yet, but I think it will be.

[00:08:08] We're ahead of the curve.

[00:08:10] And Bottoms, again, new.

[00:08:12] I was going to watch Salt Burn and then my friend Henrik was like, I think he'd rather

[00:08:17] watch Bottoms.

[00:08:18] And I think he was right.

[00:08:19] So he watched Bottoms.

[00:08:20] So I did make an effort once to watch one thing.

[00:08:23] But yeah, nope, I didn't.

[00:08:26] You know, this is also a new film.

[00:08:28] So not, I guess it depends on what foundational means.

[00:08:31] But All of Us Strangers.

[00:08:34] I haven't seen it.

[00:08:35] You would like that movie.

[00:08:36] I haven't finished it.

[00:08:37] I started watching it really late at night and I was like, this movie is going to ruin

[00:08:40] me.

[00:08:42] And then I made myself go to sleep.

[00:08:45] And that makes it a love movie for you.

[00:08:51] But it is really good from the half that I've seen.

[00:08:55] Yeah.

[00:08:56] Well, great.

[00:08:56] Maybe we can watch that sometime in the next 12 months.

[00:09:00] Yeah.

[00:09:02] So I did do the thing of asking.

[00:09:04] And if you at home want to be more successful at achieving my resolution, you in fact can

[00:09:11] do that by looking at our highlight of bi movies.

[00:09:15] And I would love that for you.

[00:09:18] You can make a zine of all the foundational queer films you haven't watched.

[00:09:26] That is so funny that I could.

[00:09:29] But yeah, I'm 0 for 1 currently.

[00:09:34] Your second goal was to read six to eight nonfiction books.

[00:09:40] I have read seven nonfiction books this year.

[00:09:44] Wow.

[00:09:44] Right on the money.

[00:09:45] And I am partway through multiple other nonfiction books, one of which I started relatively recently.

[00:09:53] So it is my hope that before the year ends that I will finish and read that eighth book.

[00:10:02] I read Grow by Eleanor Whitney, which is how to take your DIY project and passion and quit your job.

[00:10:13] Basically, that's not the correct subtitle, but that's what it's about.

[00:10:17] I think I have that book.

[00:10:19] Is it green?

[00:10:20] It's blue and green.

[00:10:22] Okay.

[00:10:22] I do have that book.

[00:10:23] Yeah, I bought it at Paige.

[00:10:24] Me too.

[00:10:26] I read Ace by Angela Chen, which we have talked about.

[00:10:30] Oh, good.

[00:10:30] That's very good because we've been recommending that book for a long time.

[00:10:34] And I read that like I finished it February 19th.

[00:10:37] My phone tells me.

[00:10:38] So the beginning of the year.

[00:10:39] The Life and Works of Jane Austen.

[00:10:42] That one is actually really interesting.

[00:10:43] It's it's actually like a course that's like part course, like part audio book.

[00:10:50] And so basically I took a course about Jane Austen, but in the form of a book.

[00:10:54] And it was very good.

[00:10:55] And for a minute I was like, I know so many things.

[00:11:00] I think honestly that I've probably forgotten a lot of them, but well, I was planning to I wanted to read all of Jane Austen's books this year.

[00:11:07] And then instead I read this book about giant Jane Austen and then none of Jane Austen's work.

[00:11:12] But I know in somewhere in the back of my mind, I know a lot about her work.

[00:11:19] That's cool.

[00:11:20] And then there's a bunch of things that I started and didn't finish.

[00:11:25] The Other Significant Others, which we have talked about on the show.

[00:11:29] I survived capitalism and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.

[00:11:32] That's a great title.

[00:11:34] From Madeline Pendleton.

[00:11:35] I also started a nonfiction book and then it was like, I don't like this.

[00:11:40] I'm going to choose to not finish it, which felt like progress.

[00:11:45] That is progress.

[00:11:46] Because I was like, I'm not going to make myself read this just because I have this goal.

[00:11:49] Yeah.

[00:11:49] You are not in college.

[00:11:51] You don't have to do that.

[00:11:52] Most of the time, my problem with nonfiction is not that I don't want to read it.

[00:11:55] It's that I don't have the gum.

[00:11:57] I read 50% and then I'm like, I'm going to do something else now.

[00:12:02] But in this one, I was like, I don't care to read this book.

[00:12:05] Working on a Song, The Lyrics of Hadestown by Anais Mitchell, which I really loved.

[00:12:11] I bought that book two years ago.

[00:12:14] In New York?

[00:12:15] Yeah.

[00:12:16] I read it at the perfect time because I was working on my poetry collection about love

[00:12:23] and the apocalypse, which in some ways is what Hadestown is about.

[00:12:27] And the book is about the writing of the music for that show and the way it evolved over time.

[00:12:32] And it was really good.

[00:12:34] A Few Rules for Predicting the Future by Octavia Butler, which is really an essay that was recently

[00:12:41] published as a book.

[00:12:42] So that helped my count.

[00:12:43] It's very short.

[00:12:44] Hey, a book is a book.

[00:12:46] Okay.

[00:12:46] You didn't set a page count goal.

[00:12:48] That's true.

[00:12:49] I guess those are the books.

[00:12:50] How does it feel to finally be a paragon of virtue like me?

[00:12:55] It was easier than I thought while also being like, because I think when I hit six books,

[00:13:01] I was like, oh, I've read six books.

[00:13:03] And you're like, great, you did it.

[00:13:04] And I was like, well, I'm going to like make myself read the eight.

[00:13:08] And I think I finished the six like middle of the year.

[00:13:10] So it did like take me a while to like read another one.

[00:13:15] But I think a lot of things are too long.

[00:13:17] And what I mean by too long is like, I think there's more value in not trying to cover every

[00:13:25] possible angle than we then like is given credit.

[00:13:30] Yeah, I agree.

[00:13:31] Like I think there's something to be said for just being like, here is one perspective or

[00:13:36] here is a like an overview, but not like trying to make the same point over and over again,

[00:13:41] which I feel like I think happens in a lot of nonfiction where it's like,

[00:13:44] I have to tell you about this thing from every single possible angle.

[00:13:48] Yeah.

[00:13:48] And I'm like, I got it in the first two or three angles.

[00:13:53] I don't actually need eight.

[00:13:55] Yeah, I agree.

[00:13:56] I think that's like a like sign of like a recovering academic because in academia,

[00:14:01] it's like you have to like defend every like you can't have an original thought without

[00:14:04] like citing it 35 times.

[00:14:06] Yeah.

[00:14:06] Yeah.

[00:14:07] And I personally like generally prefer nonfiction that has like a very like a,

[00:14:12] even if it's not a memoir, some sort of like the author is a character in it.

[00:14:16] And like the author's perspective is very clear.

[00:14:18] There's a very interesting story and there's a book about the interesting story.

[00:14:24] And the book is called The Great Arizona Orphan Abduction.

[00:14:28] I can't think of the author's name right now.

[00:14:29] And it is such a boring book.

[00:14:31] It's actually wild because if I get into the story of what happened,

[00:14:35] it'll take us a whole episode.

[00:14:37] But it's like very fascinating.

[00:14:38] And the book is like very well written and well researched.

[00:14:41] But it's like every single chapter is like,

[00:14:43] here's how like the construction of race happened.

[00:14:47] Here's how the economy of grain happened in this city.

[00:14:50] Like it's like looking and also like all the primary documents are like

[00:14:54] the court hearings basically.

[00:14:57] And so they're just like painstakingly reviewing.

[00:15:00] And I'm like, oh, so boring.

[00:15:01] But if you just like zoom out, tell the story in 10 minutes,

[00:15:03] it's very interesting.

[00:15:05] Yeah.

[00:15:05] And so now that like someone has like gone to the great work of doing that,

[00:15:08] I'm like now write it again.

[00:15:11] But like like short and fun because I know you've done the work already.

[00:15:14] And then people will read that book.

[00:15:16] Yes.

[00:15:17] Yeah.

[00:15:17] So I think that has I am realizing that and realizing like,

[00:15:21] oh, this is not just a sign.

[00:15:22] This is it's not just me being like I'm lazy.

[00:15:26] It's like, no, actually, I do think that this is a problem

[00:15:31] or at least like this is a valid critique.

[00:15:34] Yeah.

[00:15:34] Famously, one of my favorite nonfiction books that I finished this year,

[00:15:38] Raw Dog by Jamie Loftus, a book about the history of hot dogs.

[00:15:41] She like goes on a road trip and tries hot dogs and talks about them and like history.

[00:15:45] But like also there is a narrative and like she is the one trying the hot dogs.

[00:15:49] And she is like going through a breakup at like on this road trip.

[00:15:53] And like if those elements did not exist, I'd be like,

[00:15:56] I don't fucking care about hot dogs at the end of the day.

[00:15:58] But with the context and the specific perspective, it's very interesting.

[00:16:04] Look at us scholars.

[00:16:06] I love that you read like serious on fiction books.

[00:16:08] And I'm just like the history of butts.

[00:16:10] Let's go.

[00:16:16] Okay.

[00:16:17] You wanted to visit your friends this year.

[00:16:20] How'd that go?

[00:16:21] I did visit my friends.

[00:16:22] That's great.

[00:16:23] You seem surprised.

[00:16:24] Well, I was like, what happened this year?

[00:16:27] What did I do?

[00:16:29] Yes.

[00:16:29] I visited some friends in Austin and I visited some friends in Portland.

[00:16:34] I even threw a surprise birthday party in Portland for a friend.

[00:16:39] You were also surprised by it.

[00:16:41] Yes.

[00:16:42] That's a story for another day.

[00:16:45] But that also like it was to celebrate my friend.

[00:16:49] But also I like got to see more of my friends because I was like,

[00:16:51] hey, I'm in town for a couple of days.

[00:16:53] Come to this party.

[00:16:53] And that was really nice.

[00:16:55] Did I go anywhere else to visit my friends?

[00:16:58] No.

[00:16:59] A couple of friends visited me and that was good.

[00:17:02] One of my friends in Portland just got engaged recently.

[00:17:05] And I have a feeling that I will be involved in the nuptials.

[00:17:10] So I do plan to be in Portland quite a bit over the next year or so.

[00:17:14] But yes, I did.

[00:17:15] And it was nice.

[00:17:15] That's great.

[00:17:16] Yeah.

[00:17:16] You had more things than me.

[00:17:18] So finish your second book.

[00:17:21] Yeah.

[00:17:21] Not only.

[00:17:22] So I'm not all the way finished with the manuscript, but I feel that I'm like pretty close.

[00:17:26] Yeah.

[00:17:26] Evan's nodding because they've read it.

[00:17:28] Yes.

[00:17:28] And I also started a third book and then learned that I thought it was like a book about like

[00:17:36] summer.

[00:17:37] And then you told me that it was a book about God.

[00:17:41] And I hate that for me.

[00:17:45] So perhaps one day you all will see the third book, but it's going to take a lot.

[00:17:49] I was like, I mean, you know what this book is about.

[00:17:51] And you're like, no, I don't.

[00:17:52] And I was like, what?

[00:17:55] I had to like close my laptop and go stare at the sun.

[00:17:58] I was like, I can't.

[00:17:59] Yeah.

[00:17:59] That was the most out of body experience I've ever had in a writing group where I was like,

[00:18:03] I don't really know what's going on here because it's just like kind of a collection of there's

[00:18:06] a lot of poems.

[00:18:08] It's like the length could be a chapbook.

[00:18:11] But I was like, I like them.

[00:18:13] I think they're connected, but I'm like not quite sure like how.

[00:18:17] So I'm just like not sure what's going on here.

[00:18:19] And Evan was like, yes, you are.

[00:18:20] You know what's going on.

[00:18:21] And I was like, I'm not being like cutesy and demure.

[00:18:24] I like I don't actually don't know.

[00:18:26] And you were like, it's about God and like religious trauma.

[00:18:28] And I was like, oh, oh, no.

[00:18:32] And also you.

[00:18:33] And also me.

[00:18:34] You hate to see it.

[00:18:38] So we'll see how long it takes me to contend with that one.

[00:18:42] But other manuscript pretty close to.

[00:18:45] Yeah.

[00:18:45] And I mean, you have drafts of both of those things.

[00:18:49] Like finishing a book can mean many things.

[00:18:52] Yeah.

[00:18:52] So actually you have finished two books this year.

[00:18:56] Yeah.

[00:18:57] If just based on a draft count.

[00:18:58] Yeah.

[00:18:59] Does that cancel out me not watching any like films?

[00:19:01] Like, can I get extra credit?

[00:19:03] Because that would give me three for three.

[00:19:05] Yeah.

[00:19:06] And this is about the grade, of course.

[00:19:07] You can have the extra credit.

[00:19:09] Thank you.

[00:19:10] Yeah.

[00:19:10] Yeah.

[00:19:11] But yeah, we're in a writing group together.

[00:19:12] And that has been really nice.

[00:19:14] Yeah.

[00:19:14] And then your final thing was not a like resolution.

[00:19:17] It was a thing that you were looking forward to, which is Olivia Gatwood's novel, Whoever

[00:19:22] You Are, Honey.

[00:19:23] So good.

[00:19:24] I read it while flying to Portland to see my friend.

[00:19:28] And it was so good that I was like at the airport standing in line, like waiting to like

[00:19:34] scan my boarding pass to get on the plane.

[00:19:36] And I was like standing in line reading the book.

[00:19:39] Like hopefully.

[00:19:40] You were that girl.

[00:19:40] I was that girl.

[00:19:41] I was like, I'm not like the other girls.

[00:19:43] I'm like the indie dark.

[00:19:44] Like what's going on?

[00:19:45] Yeah, it was really good.

[00:19:47] And Olivia Gatwood sold the rights, the movie rights to Lucky Chap, which is Margot Robbie's

[00:19:54] production company.

[00:19:55] And Olivia is writing the script for the movie, which I cannot wait to see.

[00:20:00] So it was great.

[00:20:01] You read it to impress me, which I appreciate.

[00:20:05] Yes.

[00:20:05] I was like, I'm going to surprise her and just read this book.

[00:20:09] And we will talk about it at some point on the show.

[00:20:12] But yeah, it was a great book.

[00:20:13] I highly recommend.

[00:20:14] I love when poets write fiction because it's very like.

[00:20:18] It's a very poetic book.

[00:20:20] Yeah.

[00:20:21] Yeah.

[00:20:21] Beautiful language and very interesting story.

[00:20:23] Yeah.

[00:20:24] It was really good.

[00:20:25] It was real good.

[00:20:26] Okay.

[00:20:26] Those are.

[00:20:27] That's that's how the year went from a our resolutions perspective.

[00:20:32] Yeah.

[00:20:32] I'll say there are so many other perspectives.

[00:20:36] I feel like we should have like a dish episode over on Patreon.

[00:20:40] We learned this year that the people love gossip.

[00:20:46] We put out an episode that was like about personal update things.

[00:20:50] And we were all like mysterious about it.

[00:20:53] And we had several new patrons.

[00:20:55] And I was like, well, the people are here for the lore.

[00:20:57] I love that.

[00:21:04] I love that.

[00:21:28] and I think it's gone really well.

[00:21:31] It's been cool to get to further cultivate our Patreon community

[00:21:36] and have more folks over there

[00:21:37] and also to have a space where we get to more regularly

[00:21:40] engage with people who are already really invested in our work,

[00:21:43] which is nice.

[00:21:44] Yeah.

[00:21:44] And we also put out a survey,

[00:21:47] a poll on Patreon recently for our patrons

[00:21:51] to ask what they want from us.

[00:21:55] So if you are a patron,

[00:21:59] if you're a member of our Patreon

[00:22:01] and you haven't already,

[00:22:03] please vote in that.

[00:22:05] It's basically a list of ideas or things that we already do

[00:22:09] and we're asking for people to choose

[00:22:11] the two or three things that they're most interested in

[00:22:14] so that we can make sure that we are making the content

[00:22:17] that you want to hear from us.

[00:22:20] So this is your opportunity to be like,

[00:22:23] do this, not that.

[00:22:24] Yeah.

[00:22:24] And if you're not a patron yet,

[00:22:26] you can go sign up right now

[00:22:28] and then immediately make your opinion known.

[00:22:31] Yeah.

[00:22:32] Exactly.

[00:22:32] Yeah.

[00:22:33] But that's been great.

[00:22:34] We also make more episodes now.

[00:22:36] We do.

[00:22:37] Yeah.

[00:22:37] Yeah.

[00:22:37] We have an episode that comes out every week

[00:22:39] when we're in season.

[00:22:40] Yeah.

[00:22:41] Weekly.

[00:22:42] Wild.

[00:22:42] Look at us.

[00:22:43] So productive.

[00:22:43] Yeah.

[00:22:44] We cry a lot,

[00:22:44] but we are so productive.

[00:22:46] Yeah.

[00:22:47] The mini episodes have been really fun

[00:22:48] because like we've had a lot of ideas

[00:22:49] over the years.

[00:22:51] We've been doing this podcast.

[00:22:53] We were like,

[00:22:54] well,

[00:22:54] we want to talk about this,

[00:22:55] but it's like not quite a full episode.

[00:22:57] We do tend to like the longer form

[00:22:59] for like a lot of our like discussion style episodes.

[00:23:03] I guess they're all discussion style,

[00:23:05] but you know what I mean?

[00:23:06] Yeah.

[00:23:06] We'd love to like meditate on nuance,

[00:23:08] but it's been cool to like do bite-sized content

[00:23:11] and like have really concentrated conversations

[00:23:14] and be able to just like explore different ideas

[00:23:16] in that different format.

[00:23:17] Yeah.

[00:23:18] Yeah.

[00:23:18] Letting things be short.

[00:23:20] Letting things be short.

[00:23:22] Even though they're often long,

[00:23:24] but here we are.

[00:23:27] Letting us have the possibility of things being short.

[00:23:31] Yeah.

[00:23:32] Yeah.

[00:23:33] Pretty soon we will do the whole thing again.

[00:23:36] We'll do a clear ahead

[00:23:37] where we will set new intentions

[00:23:40] for our future selves to contend with.

[00:23:44] Yeah.

[00:23:45] Yeah.

[00:23:45] Yeah.

[00:23:45] Yeah.

[00:23:46] I hope that everyone else had a year

[00:23:49] and I'm sure they did.

[00:23:51] I feel pretty confident.

[00:23:52] And I'm like a good,

[00:23:53] it was,

[00:23:54] I,

[00:23:54] you know,

[00:23:55] here we are.

[00:23:56] We're all still here.

[00:23:57] And yeah,

[00:23:58] that's it.

[00:23:59] That's,

[00:23:59] that's the show.

[00:24:02] We are really glad

[00:24:04] that you have been with us

[00:24:06] on this journey,

[00:24:08] whether you've been with us for years

[00:24:10] or whether you just started listening to the show.

[00:24:12] Yes.

[00:24:12] Happy to have you here

[00:24:14] and listening to this new season.

[00:24:17] Yes.

[00:24:17] We appreciate it.

[00:24:18] We do it for you.

[00:24:19] All right.

[00:24:20] Well,

[00:24:20] goodbye.

[00:24:26] Thanks for listening to this episode.

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